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sakimotooo's avatar

I think that the main problem with the Manns is not in their “tamed” and clean sound, but in their attitude in general — they didn’t WANT to sound tamed and clean, they wanted and tried quite the opposite and had a desire to compete with The Rolling Stones, The Animals etc., though obviously their talent and self-confidence simply were not enough for this.

I really love lots of music from 1960s and 1970s that sounds “clean and tamed” — The Association, Carpenters, James Taylor etc. However, all these artists knew what they want and what they can do and never tried to compete with Black Sabbath or, I don’t know, Captain Beefheart. Heck, I even prefer Manfred’s “My Little Red Book” over Love’s any day — the arrangement is much more complex and “bacharachish”, let me say. Unfortunately, they tried too many OTHER things in their discography and, sadly, failed almost everywhere else.

But, quite surprisingly, people really love all this stuff and opinions like yours and mine are quite rare — I mean, according to RateYourMusic “Do Wah Diddy Diddy” (as for me, one of the most atrocious songs of the whole decade) is in top 100 singles of the year 1964. FYI, users rated this song highly than “Viva Las Vegas”, “Everybody Loves Somebody”, “I’m Into Something Good”, “Do You Want to Know a Secret”, “Bits Of Pieces”, “Out Of Sight”, “Anyway You Want It”, “I’ll Follow the Sun” and lots of other songs, that are thousand times better (while, for example, “Winchester Cathedral” (ok, it’s also not “Good Vibrations”, but at least it’s lovely and original tune, that was performed adequately) is considered to be one of the worst songs of the decade according to the same site — sometimes other people’s opinions are simply beyond my understanding).

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Expanding on your footnote about the LP5 - the Liverpool Five were actually pretty interesting in their own right, functioning more like gang of musical expatriates that ended up in America rather than being a proper “British Invasion” band, both in a literal sense (having hopped around mainland Europe and the Far East for a couple years before ending up on the west coast) and in a musical sense (their sound was actually much more in line with the American garage rock and revved-up R&B styles rather than English beat music). While they never cut their teeth as songwriters (I think I count only one “original” self-penned song in their entire 3-4 year run), they actually did turn out a number of pretty good recordings during their time with Columbia Records, including a ferocious pre-Monkees version of “I’m Not Your Stepping Stone”, which is decently recommendable. And for my money, I actually perfer their version of “If You Gotta Go, Go Now” over the Manfreds’ version - although I’ll readily admit that Im probably at least a little biased simply because of having been acquainted with the LP5 version first.

As a funny little sidenote - the band wasn’t even from Liverpool in the first place! The band had actually originated from London, evolving out of the R&B scene there before taking off across the world. But hey, I guess the “The London Five” doesn’t roll off your tongue as nicely as “The Liverpool Five” does, now does it?

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